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*********M1851 Austrian Carbine Big Bore Civil War Import************ : Auction-jsanderson-716

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Inventory Number 2218518123
Seller jeffanderson (35)
Seller's Location Grove City, OH
Home Page AG
Shipping Weight 8 lbs
Packing and Materials $30.00
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Auction Description

This is an Austrian Model 1851 carbine with the short 14.5 inch barrel, a Distinctive Cavalry Carbine imported by both North and South

This large bore percussion carbine is one of the most distinctive arms imported for use in the Civil War. These Austrian Model 1851 carbines were originally made with the distinctive Austrian tubelock ignition system, but when sold by Austria as surplus, they were modified to percussion ignition and sold to American buyers at the start of the War, both North and South.

This does have the oval Liege Belgium proof mark on top of the barrel, as well as two Gothic style letters which I think is the makers mark “FF” of the Austrian firm of Ferdinand Furnwirth. It measures 30 inches overall length with a 14.5 inch barrel. Long thought to be imported by only the North during the Civil War, recent scholarship has shown that these were imported by the Confederate government as well.

Vol. 35 No. 4 2011 of the North South Trader’s Civil War had a lengthy cover story article on these distinctive carbines by Russ Pritchard and Tim Prince which gives a good summary of what is known of these arms, including recent discoveries showing they were shipped to the confederacy during the War.

The wood is solid with the usual stress cracks, but is not missing any pieces. These were not fitted for ramrods when first made; the Austrian cavalrymen had their ram rods attached to their leather gear. About half were drilled for ramrods when converted for import to the US and half were not; the screw holding the band to the barrel was in the way of the usual location, and my carbine solved this problem by having the ramrod channel drilled behind the band.

The lock work just as it should and the nipple is clear. This still has the distinctive double ring on the sling bar, and both front and rear sights are still present and untouched. There is no rifling in the bore of this carbine. These guns were third class weapons, issued to Western troops by the Federal army, and one common complaint was that the ammunition issued for them was too small a diameter. Boring this out to a smoothbore made it into a short barrel shotgun, a type of weapon especially appreciated by Confederate cavalrymen.

I am offering this locally and elsewhere, so consider using the Buy It Now feature.

You may email me directly at jsanderson@columbus.rr.com

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Terms for Seller Jeff Anderson

Shipping costs will be different depending on where I am shipping to. That means that the shipping costs listed in my auctions are an estimate based on averages, but once you have won the auction, I will send you the actual cost of shipping.

All items that I sell will have a 3-day inspection with full sales price refund minus all shipping charges when returned in same condition as shipped. ALL items are sold in USED AS-IS condition and as "Collector Curios and Antiques" with NO guarantees, warranties, or liabilities implied or given for shooting or any other use. ANY inferences or comments made by me as to shooting condition is for informational description purposes ONLY and is NOT meant or intended to be a guarantee or inference of the item's safety for firing!!


Payment MUST be in either a bank Cashiers Check or Money Order ONLY. Payment must be received within ten-days of any finalized deal or ended auction.


I will ship outside of the US, but it is not possible to fully insure items once they are outside of the U.S. postal system...but if the buyer accepts this responsibility of possible damage or loss, and if he checks his Customs laws and is legal to import this particular antique weapon, then I MAY ship outside the USA, depending on the country involved. I know the federal laws about shipping antiques, and will follow them always...but you must make sure that it is legal for you where you live to receive and possess the item you want to buy. Please e-mail for any unclear terms.


You can email me directly at jsanderson@columbus.rr.com